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		<title>Comment on Erasing Hell or Erasing Grace? Francis Chan by Jackson Baer</title>
		<link>http://pastorjimmysblog.net/2011/10/13/erasing-hell-or-erasing-grace-francis-chan/#comment-134</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jackson Baer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 06:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Get the best selling book for free on your Kindle Sunday, February 12th! It will challenge everything you may have heard about Heaven &amp; Hell and force you to ask, &quot;Is God really love?&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get the best selling book for free on your Kindle Sunday, February 12th! It will challenge everything you may have heard about Heaven &amp; Hell and force you to ask, &#8220;Is God really love?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Just For Men? by Shirley Tingley</title>
		<link>http://pastorjimmysblog.net/2012/02/09/just-for-men/#comment-131</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shirley Tingley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PREACH ON, BROTHER!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PREACH ON, BROTHER!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Erasing Hell or Erasing Grace? Francis Chan by revjdc</title>
		<link>http://pastorjimmysblog.net/2011/10/13/erasing-hell-or-erasing-grace-francis-chan/#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[revjdc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 14:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My biggest complaint about &quot;Erasing Hell&quot; is that Chan is capable of far more than he accomplished here. The book comes across as a presentation of God the institution, when I know from Chan&#039;s other works that he doesn&#039;t approach God that way.

But I think you have a valid point. I cannot allow this argument to limit my theological options. While I had been specifically asked at church to address this controversy, I need to keep reminding all involved that two books do not constitute the bulk of the discussion. I&#039;m a Baptist for crying out loud; I&#039;m not supposed to let others limit the debate for me.

I do not think that, on the basis of &quot;Love Wins,&quot; we can say that Bell has decided that &quot;Hell is inconsistent with God&#039;s Fatherhood.&quot; Part of the problem is that, based on &quot;Love Wins,&quot; we can&#039;t really say with certainty what Bell has decided. He never states a conclusion.

Bell raises questions that must be addressed, and I think that was his intent. However, the arguments that have risen (driven far too much by people who haven&#039;t read the book) are actually hindering discussion of those questions.

I do think that both Bell and Chan would agree that the &quot;end&quot; is not heaven, but God&#039;s very self. Our teaching and preaching, therefore, must be about more than escaping hell.

Thank you for reading and commenting!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My biggest complaint about &#8220;Erasing Hell&#8221; is that Chan is capable of far more than he accomplished here. The book comes across as a presentation of God the institution, when I know from Chan&#8217;s other works that he doesn&#8217;t approach God that way.</p>
<p>But I think you have a valid point. I cannot allow this argument to limit my theological options. While I had been specifically asked at church to address this controversy, I need to keep reminding all involved that two books do not constitute the bulk of the discussion. I&#8217;m a Baptist for crying out loud; I&#8217;m not supposed to let others limit the debate for me.</p>
<p>I do not think that, on the basis of &#8220;Love Wins,&#8221; we can say that Bell has decided that &#8220;Hell is inconsistent with God&#8217;s Fatherhood.&#8221; Part of the problem is that, based on &#8220;Love Wins,&#8221; we can&#8217;t really say with certainty what Bell has decided. He never states a conclusion.</p>
<p>Bell raises questions that must be addressed, and I think that was his intent. However, the arguments that have risen (driven far too much by people who haven&#8217;t read the book) are actually hindering discussion of those questions.</p>
<p>I do think that both Bell and Chan would agree that the &#8220;end&#8221; is not heaven, but God&#8217;s very self. Our teaching and preaching, therefore, must be about more than escaping hell.</p>
<p>Thank you for reading and commenting!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Erasing Hell or Erasing Grace? Francis Chan by Dan</title>
		<link>http://pastorjimmysblog.net/2011/10/13/erasing-hell-or-erasing-grace-francis-chan/#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t get it.  You blame Chan for &quot;picking&quot; as well as &quot;polarizing&quot; and then you &quot;pick&quot; yourself from the 2 options you see on the table.  That doesn&#039;t make a lot of sense to me.

I have been embroiled in the debate, prior to the arguments of Bell or Chan, of whether or not to follow these men down the rabbit trail.  I am not saying that the existence of Hell is somehow a &quot;rabbit trail&quot; itself - but the argument can be.  It seems that you have come to the edge of the forest and chosen which trail seems better of the two.  But what is missing in all of this is a simple question: what is the intended destination?

That is the key.  Is Chan trying to snap people out of their view of God as a loving, paternal, personal Being?  No.  In fact, you yourself see that this is not his consistent argument.  The key just might be that when we apply our view of what a &quot;loving, paternal &amp; personal&quot; being is, does not end up being the God of Scripture when it comes to issues like Hell and judgement.  The issue is that both are chasing the same loving Father and one has decided that Hell is inconsistent (Bell) with God&#039;s Fatherhood, the other has concluded it is not (Chan).

The issue cannot be &quot;which road&quot; but &quot;which end&quot;.  I believe it fair to say that both are confident that their view is stronger and more consistent with God&#039;s character overall, but I also believe it fair to say that the divergence is not in God being relational, but in how they each interpret the  Scriptures.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get it.  You blame Chan for &#8220;picking&#8221; as well as &#8220;polarizing&#8221; and then you &#8220;pick&#8221; yourself from the 2 options you see on the table.  That doesn&#8217;t make a lot of sense to me.</p>
<p>I have been embroiled in the debate, prior to the arguments of Bell or Chan, of whether or not to follow these men down the rabbit trail.  I am not saying that the existence of Hell is somehow a &#8220;rabbit trail&#8221; itself &#8211; but the argument can be.  It seems that you have come to the edge of the forest and chosen which trail seems better of the two.  But what is missing in all of this is a simple question: what is the intended destination?</p>
<p>That is the key.  Is Chan trying to snap people out of their view of God as a loving, paternal, personal Being?  No.  In fact, you yourself see that this is not his consistent argument.  The key just might be that when we apply our view of what a &#8220;loving, paternal &amp; personal&#8221; being is, does not end up being the God of Scripture when it comes to issues like Hell and judgement.  The issue is that both are chasing the same loving Father and one has decided that Hell is inconsistent (Bell) with God&#8217;s Fatherhood, the other has concluded it is not (Chan).</p>
<p>The issue cannot be &#8220;which road&#8221; but &#8220;which end&#8221;.  I believe it fair to say that both are confident that their view is stronger and more consistent with God&#8217;s character overall, but I also believe it fair to say that the divergence is not in God being relational, but in how they each interpret the  Scriptures.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Church That Lasts&#8211; Knowing How to Serve by Michelle Halcomb</title>
		<link>http://pastorjimmysblog.net/2010/04/01/a-church-that-lasts-knowing-how-to-serve/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michelle Halcomb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 19:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On the other side of the scale, I have been turned down in my efforts to help others because they feel my needs are so much that I shouldn&#039;t take on a &quot;burden&quot; in their eyes. That MUST be ironic or something like that... I also know for fact that a particular individual was refused to join an outreach bc the leader of the group felt she was too involved in other areas.  That is just nuts...I think, seeing as I have a lot of experience in nuttiness...lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the other side of the scale, I have been turned down in my efforts to help others because they feel my needs are so much that I shouldn&#8217;t take on a &#8220;burden&#8221; in their eyes. That MUST be ironic or something like that&#8230; I also know for fact that a particular individual was refused to join an outreach bc the leader of the group felt she was too involved in other areas.  That is just nuts&#8230;I think, seeing as I have a lot of experience in nuttiness&#8230;lol</p>
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		<title>Comment on Using My Bible More Effectively by Michelle Halcomb</title>
		<link>http://pastorjimmysblog.net/2010/06/29/using-my-bible-more-effectively/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michelle Halcomb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 19:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, someone reads a scripture, decides (with the help of the Christian community as a guideline) how they should interpret it?  Isn&#039;t this kinda how different denominations evolve?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, someone reads a scripture, decides (with the help of the Christian community as a guideline) how they should interpret it?  Isn&#8217;t this kinda how different denominations evolve?</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Church That Lasts&#8211; Knowing How to Serve by Pastor Jimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pastor Jimmy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really thought I&#039;d replied to this a long time ago. Please accept my apologies; I wasn&#039;t trying to ignore you.

Helping others (and accepting that help) can be an art form. Accepting help doesn&#039;t mean we&#039;re weak, just that this particular situation lies outside our abilities or our control. Admitting our need of help is requires more strength and maturity than trying to bear the burden alone. Admitting our need isn&#039;t weakness, but the strength of realizing that we&#039;re not all-powerful.

And it is important to ask &quot;am I doing this for me or for them?&quot; Even if I can meet the need, I must do it in a way that lifts up the other person and not myself. As long as I keep asking that question, I&#039;ll keep myself from focusing on me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really thought I&#8217;d replied to this a long time ago. Please accept my apologies; I wasn&#8217;t trying to ignore you.</p>
<p>Helping others (and accepting that help) can be an art form. Accepting help doesn&#8217;t mean we&#8217;re weak, just that this particular situation lies outside our abilities or our control. Admitting our need of help is requires more strength and maturity than trying to bear the burden alone. Admitting our need isn&#8217;t weakness, but the strength of realizing that we&#8217;re not all-powerful.</p>
<p>And it is important to ask &#8220;am I doing this for me or for them?&#8221; Even if I can meet the need, I must do it in a way that lifts up the other person and not myself. As long as I keep asking that question, I&#8217;ll keep myself from focusing on me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Church That Lasts&#8211; Knowing How to Serve by Pastor Jimmy</title>
		<link>http://pastorjimmysblog.net/2010/04/01/a-church-that-lasts-knowing-how-to-serve/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pastor Jimmy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve always wondered why people call the church office to ask how someone is doing rather than calling or going to see the person themselves. Do we only like church when it&#039;s convenient for us, or do we see church as a way to invest in the lives of others? Do we only invest during the big crisis moments when everyone else can see the investment, or are we willing to invest in others during the lulls when no one is looking? Interesting thoughts-- and ideas for future blogging.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always wondered why people call the church office to ask how someone is doing rather than calling or going to see the person themselves. Do we only like church when it&#8217;s convenient for us, or do we see church as a way to invest in the lives of others? Do we only invest during the big crisis moments when everyone else can see the investment, or are we willing to invest in others during the lulls when no one is looking? Interesting thoughts&#8211; and ideas for future blogging.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Using My Bible More Effectively by Pastor Jimmy</title>
		<link>http://pastorjimmysblog.net/2010/06/29/using-my-bible-more-effectively/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pastor Jimmy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, that&#039;s going to be the focus of the next few posts. I have a few observations about concepts of authorship and history in the ancient world (probably going up later today), concepts which are very different than our views, and some questions to ask to help use the scriptures more effectively as a tool for spiritual formation (probably going up tomorrow).

One important thing to note here: we have Christian community, both past and present, to act as &quot;checks and balances&quot; on our own interpretation of scripture. Not that church tradition is always perfect (for example, on slavery), but it can serve as a guardrail to keep us from going too far off course.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, that&#8217;s going to be the focus of the next few posts. I have a few observations about concepts of authorship and history in the ancient world (probably going up later today), concepts which are very different than our views, and some questions to ask to help use the scriptures more effectively as a tool for spiritual formation (probably going up tomorrow).</p>
<p>One important thing to note here: we have Christian community, both past and present, to act as &#8220;checks and balances&#8221; on our own interpretation of scripture. Not that church tradition is always perfect (for example, on slavery), but it can serve as a guardrail to keep us from going too far off course.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Church That Lasts&#8211; Knowing How to Serve by Michelle Halcomb</title>
		<link>http://pastorjimmysblog.net/2010/04/01/a-church-that-lasts-knowing-how-to-serve/#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michelle Halcomb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 15:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a person who has had some needs, well rather a lot of needs in the recent years, I feel rather torn about this issue.  While a many people have helped us out in some way or another when crisis strikes, upon asking for help, very few people stick in there over the long haul.  I think many people are great in the immediate time of trouble, however, it seems to wain when the situation appears to be better in their eyes.  There are many times, I agree with Cindy, that it is difficult to open yourself up to the scrutiny of others.  I also think out of sight out of mind is true.  Recently, I heard someone ask if we (my family) had joined another church.  I was heartbroken.  In this day and age of of all the means of communication that person could not have reached out to me just to check in on us.  Perhaps there was just so much going on that we could not be at church at all. This is an area I, myself, feel like I fail in, but am trying to be proactive in not being that way.  I think people may not want to know there is a need...or are just too busy.  Sorry, might have hit a nerve with me, Jimmy...:)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a person who has had some needs, well rather a lot of needs in the recent years, I feel rather torn about this issue.  While a many people have helped us out in some way or another when crisis strikes, upon asking for help, very few people stick in there over the long haul.  I think many people are great in the immediate time of trouble, however, it seems to wain when the situation appears to be better in their eyes.  There are many times, I agree with Cindy, that it is difficult to open yourself up to the scrutiny of others.  I also think out of sight out of mind is true.  Recently, I heard someone ask if we (my family) had joined another church.  I was heartbroken.  In this day and age of of all the means of communication that person could not have reached out to me just to check in on us.  Perhaps there was just so much going on that we could not be at church at all. This is an area I, myself, feel like I fail in, but am trying to be proactive in not being that way.  I think people may not want to know there is a need&#8230;or are just too busy.  Sorry, might have hit a nerve with me, Jimmy&#8230;:)</p>
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